23 June 2005

Stop The ACLU BlogBurst 6/23/05

Constitutional Amendment Banning Flag Desecration & the ACLU's Opposition to It

For a couple of decades now, Congress has repeatedly attempted to pass a Constitutional Amendment banning the burning of our national flag. Until now, the chances of its passing have been nil. Yesterday, the House passed a bill banning burning of the flag by 8 votes. Now it's on to the Senate. The ACLU has released a statement, "the House’s approval of the "Flag Desecration Amendment" a loss for freedom and an unwarranted assault on the First Amendment." And are Claiming, "Nationwide, there is growing opposition to this proposal. The First Amendment Center issued a survey in which 63 percent of those polled said that the Constitution 'should not be amended to prohibit burning or desecrating the American flag.'" source Well as a Cold War Veteran, I am appalled every time I see the flag that I was willing to die for, desecrated by these liberal wackjobs that have the French mentality of capitulation to our enemies. First off the symbolism of flag burning is related to the desire of the person or persons doing the burning of a wish that the same happen to the country whose flag is being burned. Think of it, who on an international scale burns our flag? Extremists who want to destroy America. Who burns Israel's flag? Islamic extremists who wish to exterminate Israel from the Earth. So when one of our own citizens, burns our flag on the streets of a city in the United States, they are publicly calling for our destruction. And that angers me. Liberals would have you believe that it's protected under free speech. You see, they really don't think that it's free speech. They really want the USA as it is today destroyed. It has been their goal to turn this nation into a socialist state since its founding in 1920.

"I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal." Roger Baldwin 1935
Critics of my position point out that Baldwin renounced Communism. That is true. It happened when Germany and Stalin signed the non-aggression treaty. The ACLU even adopted a policy to not allow members who are members of the Communist Party. Several high ranking individuals were removed from the membership roles only to be reinstated after the war when the policy was revoked. source And to further their communist cause, they will resort to anything. As stated in the 45 goals of the Communist Party entered into the Congressional Record on January 10, 1963:

  • 19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. (To which they would include burning of the national flag.)
  • 42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
  • Public discourse is a natural thing. Protesting unfavorable government policies is natural. And a Constitutional Right. But your exercising of your rights under the Constitution cannot interfere with my rights. And burning the flag offends me. And if a visual offense can spark the ACLU to come to the aid of an atheist who is offended by a cross that is part of a memorial on top of a hill that's been there for decades, then why are they opposing my position. I'm offended. I want it stopped. Ever since 1814, when Francis Scott Key wrote the Poem "The Star Spangled Banner," our symbol has been that flag. It is by nature a battle flag. Why? Because freedom comes at a cost. We are always at war. War against forces that are aimed at destroying us. And the ACLU is one of those forces. Here is a list that I prepared for our members to draw source material from:

    From aclu.org

    For more than a decade, the Citizen's Flag Alliance and others have expended seemingly endless resources lobbying candidates and members of Congress to pass a constitutional amendment giving the government the power to prohibit the physical desecration of the American flag. Civil libertarians have fought back hard, organizing coalitions of veterans, religious leaders and other Americans who believe that such a constitutional amendment would undermine the very principles for which the American flag stands.

    While our fight against the proposed amendment has made headway in recent years, the margins of our victories remain precariously thin. Recent calls for patriotic unity threaten to bolster the cause of those who wish to protect the symbol of our freedoms at the expense of the freedoms themselves.

    We urge you to read about the history of the flag amendment and why Americans across the country oppose this amendment. Then make your voice heard! (source)

    · ACLU talking points on why this amendment is unwarranted and unconstitutional

    · ACLU letter to the Senate opposing the flag amendment

    · ACLU letter to the House opposing the flag amendment

    ACLU Calls Flag Desecration Amendment Assault on Free Speech; Says Measure Fails Very Principles Flag Embodies (05/25/2005)

    WASHINGTON - Noting that free expression and the right to dissent are among the core principles for which the American flag stands, the American Civil Liberties Union today strongly urged Congress to reject the reintroduced Flag Desecration Amendment. The House Judiciary Committee is considering that measure today.

    House Votes to Amend Constitution Once Again; But Margin of Support For Flag Amendment Drops Again (07/17/2001)

    WASHINGTON -- The House of Representatives today voted by a slim 8-vote margin to once again approve a controversial proposal to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban desecration of the American flag. This year's vote was particularly noteworthy, the American Civil Liberties Union said, because the number of votes for the amendment dropped under 300.

    Flag Desecration Amendment Marked Up in House Judiciary; ACLU Urges Opposition, Says American Strength Based in Tolerance (06/20/2001)

    WASHINGTON - With the perennial flag "desecration" amendment set for yet another floor vote as early as next week, the American Civil Liberties Union is again urging lawmakers to oppose the misguided and dangerous proposal.

    House Subcommittee Approves Flag Amendment; ACLU Says Patriotism Can Not Be Forced (05/24/2001)

    WASHINGTON -- A House subcommittee today approved a proposed constitutional amendment that would prohibit "desecration" of the American flag. In response, the American Civil Liberties Union joined with veterans and reiterated its strong disapproval of what it calls a misguided and counter-productive initiative.

    Flag Desecration Amendment Reintroduced; ACLU Vows to Renew Grassroots Campaign Against Measure (03/13/2001)

    WASHINGTON - As proponents once again reopened their drive to amend the U.S. Constitution to ban desecration of the American flag, the American Civil Liberties Union today joined with veterans and urged members of Congress to reject the proposed amendment once again

    From The House & Senate

    1 . Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the Congress and the States to prohibit the act of desecration of the flag of the United States and to set... (Introduced in House)[H.J.RES.5.IH] 2 . Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. (Introduced in Senate)[S.J.RES.12.IS] 3 . Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. (Introduced in House)[H.J.RES.10.IH] 4 . Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the Congress to prohibit the physical desecration of the flag of the United States. (Reported in House)[H.J.RES.10.RH]

    Burning our flag isn't free speech. It is inciting violent destruction of our nation. And if the libs can't see that, they are mentally flawed.

    Congressional Emergency

    Urge passage of HR 2679, The Public Expression of Religion Act of 2005. What this bill does, is to remove the ability for the awarding of federal funds in order to recover legal fees in Constitutional challenges to the 1st Amendment's Establishment Clause. These suits are often taken pro bono. But once won, the attorneys are able to recover legal fees from the government. We need to get groups like the ACLU off the Taxpayers' Dime. Call, write, or email your Congressman and Senators and urge passage of this bill.

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